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	<title>Comments on: Why Not W3C or IETF?</title>
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	<description>Ben Laurie blathering</description>
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		<title>By: Standardizing on a standards body &#171; Random Oracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Standardizing on a standards body &#171; Random Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Laurie seeks to preempt that question, also raised in the discussion group. Jury is out on the characterization of W3C as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James A. Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>James A. Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not idiots, but that when a group exceeds a certain size the group as a whole becomes idiotic.

The largest sized group that can actually design anything is about three people.  The success of linux is largely due to the personal dictatorship of Linus, recently illustrated and demonstrated by the story of Git.

The &quot;working code&quot; part of the IEEE credo tended to drastically limit the number of contributors, thereby resulting in groups that could actually function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not idiots, but that when a group exceeds a certain size the group as a whole becomes idiotic.</p>
<p>The largest sized group that can actually design anything is about three people.  The success of linux is largely due to the personal dictatorship of Linus, recently illustrated and demonstrated by the story of Git.</p>
<p>The &#8220;working code&#8221; part of the IEEE credo tended to drastically limit the number of contributors, thereby resulting in groups that could actually function.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I brought up the IETF&#039;s &quot;No Fool Left Behind&quot; participation policy at the Open Web Foundation BOF at OSCON.  Brian Behlendorf pointed out that the IETF was successful for many years, and cloning a restart of it might not be a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I brought up the IETF&#8217;s &#8220;No Fool Left Behind&#8221; participation policy at the Open Web Foundation BOF at OSCON.  Brian Behlendorf pointed out that the IETF was successful for many years, and cloning a restart of it might not be a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Hendry</title>
		<link>http://www.links.org/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-217154</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Hendry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with W3C&#039;s royalty free policy?

If you want the W3C, though more open, try the &lt;a href=&quot;http://whatwg.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHATWG&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with W3C&#8217;s royalty free policy?</p>
<p>If you want the W3C, though more open, try the <a href="http://whatwg.org" rel="nofollow">WHATWG</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: djm</title>
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		<dc:creator>djm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes.

I can think of at least two IETF working groups that have had specifications significantly delayed or ruined outright by people with big ideas but no implementation experience. It is a pity that the &quot;... and running code&quot; part of the IETF credo has been largely jettisoned - it is a good filter for bad specifications and cranks alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes.</p>
<p>I can think of at least two IETF working groups that have had specifications significantly delayed or ruined outright by people with big ideas but no implementation experience. It is a pity that the &#8220;&#8230; and running code&#8221; part of the IETF credo has been largely jettisoned &#8211; it is a good filter for bad specifications and cranks alike.</p>
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